coulter deliberately solicits outrage, because controversy appears to make her relevant. Once she saw how much publicity her perfecting comment got, she began jewbaiting more aggressively.
and plenty on the right in america are like the bnp, in that they find jews useful, but don't like jews, and it keeps coming out
There is one reference to Cathars in this document.
As a factual clarification, the term "Cathars" derives from the Greek word Katheroi and means "Pure Ones". They were a gnostic Christian sect of tolerant pacifists that arose in the 11th century, an offshoot of a small surviving European gnostic community that emigrated to the Albigensian region in the south of France.The medieval Cathar movement flourished in the 12th century A.D. throughout Europe until its virtual extermination at the hands of the Inquisition in 1245.
There are an ever increasing number of historians and other academics engaged in serious Cathar studies. Interestingly, to date, the deeper they have dug, the more they have vindicated claims that medieval Catharism represented a survival of the earliest Christian practices.
Thank you! Brad Hoffstetter Communications Division Assembly of good Christians www.cathar.net
Some credible sources: http://www.wmich.edu/medieval/congress/ http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/sbook.html
I listen to, and visit those websites sometimes, that you wrote about, Rense, Jones and the like. Rense liked to come off that he is just putting up articles from others, but I have sent 1 article to him (I thought it was good) to be put up, along with his smear campaign against Israel and the jewish people. It was not put up on his site (big surprise), but it might not have met up with his "journalistic" standard (LOL). Thanks again Lemon for the post.
Assembly.. I do not believe the Cathars were gnostic at all. Their beliefs are written down by their deadly enemies the catholic church and as such are mainly lies.
Cathars have much in common with the present day churches of G-d who believe that the satan is the "god of this world" but not in the same sense that G-d is. They used the term god but in the same sense that tanakh uses it even for men in power. They believe he was given dominion of it as a stewardship and that Jesus overcame and qualified to rule the earth but will not take that position until what they term the "millenium" alond with his saints.
The Catholic church twisted this into gnostic belief which , of course is belief in two distinct and equal gods, the satan and G-d.
I have made quite a study of the Cathars, Waldenses and Albigensians, etc.
In his book Dan Brown alludes to the Cathars doing secret things on "April 14". I believe, from my own investigations that what they were doing is Nisan 14 and were observing passover, and yes I do believe that they were an offshoot along with others of the original christians from Jerusalem.
The history of it all is fascinating.
August 23, 2009
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I read an article by Bruce Walker, author of book "Sinisterism" who wrote that all evil is on the left, including anti-semitism. Are Coulter and Buchanan are really on the right? Maybe not. Also I was reading some far left and even KKK blogs who describe themselves as Libertarians now! There is truly a muddying of descriptives, don't you think? My opinion right now (which may change) is that most conservatives are not anti-semites.
October 05, 2009
Ann Coulter has made a few anti Jewish references in the past. She makes a lot of cruel anti-'lots of things' remarks quite often actually. Remarks like:
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity" and
"Mostly the Witches of East Brunswick wanted George Bush to apologize for not being Bill Clinton,"in her book "Godless" referring to the 9 11 widows Then there is her reference to Jews being incomplete beings and now her insistance that a more liberal leaning minister, with whom she disagrees must be Jew to be so pro separation of church and state. Barry Lynn is head of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.Barry is a Protestant minister, not a member of the Jewish faith.
As one blogger noted, Coulter has a book coming out and outrageous statements seem to proceed that, like the 9 11 widow disparagment and calling John Edwards a faggot. I am sorry I forget where I read about this "book" idea now or I would link to the post.
If people are thinking that anti-Jewish feeling is something found only in small segments of society or as a convenient way to get publicity a la Coulter, I would ask that you think again. Far more conservatives are anti-Jewish than you would like to believe. Sites like Alex Jones , Rense and others are filled with ugly rumor and stories about 'them Jews'. The ugly stereotypes and religious garbage spewed out as 'knowledge' about Jews is pretty ugly all around. In Hitler's Germany it was said that "Jews" were behind all the banks. They were the super rich bankers that held the fate of the world in their hands. There are huge numbers of people who believe that today also. Hey, you gotta blame someone right? The world has never been big on personal responsibility so it must always be the fault of someone else, or some other group.
Yet, most of the Jews herded into camps and murderered were simply poor to middle class folk who worried about paying the rent from month to month and putting food on the table to feed the children. The super rich of any group are usually neither persecuted, nor religious. These disparities between what was said and what really is don't enter the mind of people bent on hatred, though. Hatred is the thing upper most in their mind. Bitter feelings of undetermined origin have to find a focal point , a scapegoat and they settle on Jews more often than not.
One Jew is suspected of something and all Jews pay. Doesn't work that way with other religions. Catholic clergy can be involved in the molesting of hundreds of children and the church isn't touched by it at all. Certainly no one is rounded up for camps over it.
One Protestant like Jeffrey Dahmer eats people but, not much is said about it's being because he comes from a religion that teaches you to eat flesh and drink blood. No, the blood drinking is said to be done by Jews who will not eat meat with blood in it at all!
You see, Catholics believe in transubstantiation, where wine and bread literally become real flesh and blood. It is then eaten. Yet no one accuses them of drinking blood. But, they do as far as their belief goes. Odd that.Why is that? (Protestants do not believe in transubstantiation)
Jews, whose very bible teaches that the life is in the blood, who are forbidden to eat of it in any form, are accused of doing that very thing. Yet, they don't at all. Human sacrifice is anathema to Jews. Throughout history it is interesting to note that peoples whose teaching taught directly against a practice were often accused of that very practice. Such is the rot of evil minds. For an example, read the writings about the Cathars and Albigenses. I will just state for you in advance that everything that is taught about them is false. It was written by the very people who murdered a million of them (they were nearly exterminated). Dan Brown's take on them is all wrong in his novels.
There are far more Christians in Hollywood than Jews. Yet, Hollywood is said to be a tool of the Jews. Jews are said to run the USA... yet Israel can't maintain their own land because of US pressure to give it up. Odd again isn't it? Israel receives some foreign aid from the US. It is considered a horrible problem for some. Yet, they don't mind or speak up about the money sent to nations that terrorize the USA or are bent on its destruction. Still more oddity here.
The "Jewish lobby" is spoken of as if it was the most powerful entity in the known universe! Another oddity. Yet, the lobbies of powerful drug companies that are doing quite iffy and suspicious are not mentioned. And, I name here only one among hundreds of lobbys,some of which are downright dangerous. Do some research.
For people with the view of Ann Coulter, Barry Lynn cannot just have a view point on his own as a Protestant minister. No, it has to be that he is a wicked Jew trying to destroy Christianity. The idea is that no one in their right mind should find it distasteful to have someone else's religion pushed down their throat.
Frankly Jews don't care one wit about Christianity except that it keep to itself and keep it's missionaries locked up in closets and away from Jews. That's the whole extent of Jewish interest in Christianity. One commenter to Sultan Knish which was not published, said that Jews probably consider Jesus to be a great and noble prophet at the least. No, they do not. They don't even consider him at all, in any way. It simply isn't on the radar. Jewish interest in Christianity is simple of the 'oh no, here they come again to kill us' variety. I think that is part of the problem as they want their victims to never say ouch. Die Jews... but don't complain about it. Let us hate you Jews, but don't speak up about it. Just shut up and die. Ann Coulter and others have a bitterness that runs deep. After all you have to blame someone. Novak did too... and so do many others who are outted in their ugly thinking quite often lately. One conservative writer was also a writer for a white supremacist group. He isn't alone. Pat Buchanan is convinced that Jews are the problem behind everything.
Again, it's not an intellectual opinion on any of their parts as the "proof" is so shoddy and silly as to be laughable. But see, German "proof" also simply rested on talk and propaganda repeated over and over again. In Arab nations , most of which were staunch nazis in WWII, the stories about Jews and their practices are nothing but lies and ugly fantasy as far from truth as east is from west.
So what about Conservatism. Well, I don't like it much, anymore than I like the liberal left. I have stated in the blog many times that one side is the same as the other...not much of a difference in the two. Democrats just destroy the nation a bit faster than the Republicans, that's all. Both are hate mongers, both sides use lies and propaganda to belittle and cut down their enemies and neither side is a friend to Jews when push comes to shove.
Conservatism hides a great deal behind a cloak of respectibility. But in the end... well.. look at Buchanan, Coulter , Jeff Rense and the list goes on. They talk conservatism but inside there are dark places that are frighteningly anti-Semitic and ugly. They talk reason but there is a root of unreasoning hatred seething inside.
So when you hear these bitter ones speaking out, think it over carefully and realize that they mean you too. Their anti-Jewish hate is not all they are against. They hate a lot of things. Just listen to them all.
When they say Jews are incomplete and need Christianity, what denomination out of the many hundreds of christian denominations do they mean? The denominations have no love for one another either. Just remember all the religious wars and long standing inquisitions in Europe ...all over denominationalism.
So , do they mean the Catholic brand? Is it the Espicopalians? Which brand of Episcopal is it? They now also have internal fighting going on. Is it one of the many types of Baptist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Methodist, Quaker? Could it be the Sabbatarian brands, who, for the most part by the way consider Christmas a horrible pagan rite and hate Easter too. Some of them believe all mankind is commanded to keep a strict sabbath on the seventh day too. Are you up for that? Is it the Christianity of the Latter Day Saints? .. oh I can see the email claiming they are not "christian". Well they beg to differ.
But you see the problem here. Houses that are divided against and amongst themselves cannot stand and division does not come always come from love does it? They certainly cannot agree and as tanakh(bible) says "can two walk together unless they are in agreement?"
In eyes that see from a root of bitterness, everyone is guilty of some heresy if they are not exactly like you.
After these people finish with the Jews, they will begin to once again devour one another. There is nothing new under the sun. What was is and what is was.
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Close this window Jump to comment formcoulter deliberately solicits outrage, because controversy appears to make her relevant. Once she saw how much publicity her perfecting comment got, she began jewbaiting more aggressively.
and plenty on the right in america are like the bnp, in that they find jews useful, but don't like jews, and it keeps coming out
August 23, 2009
There is one reference to Cathars in this document.
As a factual clarification, the term "Cathars" derives from the Greek word Katheroi and means "Pure Ones". They were a gnostic Christian sect of tolerant pacifists that arose in the 11th century, an offshoot of a small surviving European gnostic community that emigrated to the Albigensian region in the south of France.The medieval Cathar movement flourished in the 12th century A.D. throughout Europe until its virtual extermination at the hands of the Inquisition in 1245.
There are an ever increasing number of historians and other academics engaged in serious Cathar studies. Interestingly, to date, the deeper they have dug, the more they have vindicated claims that medieval Catharism represented a survival of the earliest Christian practices.
Thank you!
Brad Hoffstetter
Communications Division
Assembly of good Christians
www.cathar.net
Some credible sources:
http://www.wmich.edu/medieval/congress/
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/sbook.html
August 23, 2009
Very well said. Thanks for this post.
August 23, 2009
I listen to, and visit those websites sometimes, that you wrote about, Rense, Jones and the like. Rense liked to come off that he is just putting up articles from others, but I have sent 1 article to him (I thought it was good) to be put up, along with his smear campaign against Israel and the jewish people. It was not put up on his site (big surprise), but it might not have met up with his "journalistic" standard (LOL). Thanks again Lemon for the post.
August 23, 2009
Assembly..
I do not believe the Cathars were gnostic at all.
Their beliefs are written down by their deadly enemies the catholic church and as such are mainly lies.
Cathars have much in common with the present day churches of G-d who believe that the satan is the "god of this world" but not in the same sense that G-d is. They used the term god but in the same sense that tanakh uses it even for men in power.
They believe he was given dominion of it as a stewardship and that Jesus overcame and qualified to rule the earth but will not take that position until what they term the "millenium" alond with his saints.
The Catholic church twisted this into gnostic belief which , of course is belief in two distinct and equal gods, the satan and G-d.
I have made quite a study of the Cathars, Waldenses and Albigensians, etc.
August 23, 2009
In his book Dan Brown alludes to the Cathars doing secret things on "April 14".
I believe, from my own investigations that what they were doing is Nisan 14 and were observing passover, and yes I do believe that they were an offshoot along with others of the original christians from Jerusalem.
The history of it all is fascinating.
August 23, 2009
I read an article by Bruce Walker, author of book "Sinisterism" who wrote that all evil is on the left, including anti-semitism. Are Coulter and Buchanan are really on the right? Maybe not. Also I was reading some far left and even KKK blogs who describe themselves as Libertarians now! There is truly a muddying of descriptives, don't you think? My opinion right now (which may change) is that most conservatives are not anti-semites.
October 05, 2009